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  • jen-cueva

    Member
    April 23, 2020 at 5:44 pm

    Hi @ksmith610, I can respect your silence as a sign of respect. You offer some thought-provoking topics to the forums. We appreciate your feedback, too. But, also know that any support that you need, we are here. Your concerns are just as important.

    I don’t have as much life experience that you have, but we can agree that our world is in a dystopia. It is heartbreaking in so many ways.

    It sounds like you are keeping busy and enjoying music. I wrote about music therapy last week.

    I did not know that you were once an orchestra conductor. That sounds exciting. How many years did you do that? I hate to tell you that I have yet to attend an opera. I have seen Bocelli, and I know him being called Opera has been a debate. What are your thoughts on that?

    I am with you on eating too many snacks. I find that the last month or so, I have been doing this more often. It is OK to enjoy your snacks and beer every so often.

    I hope that your transition from selexipag to Orenitram goes smoothly. I did the opposite. For me, the worst side effects were the GI ones. As you know, all too well, our bodies react differently. Please do keep us posted when you transition.
    Stay safe and take care.

  • jen-cueva

    Member
    April 23, 2020 at 5:52 pm

    Hi @cdvol3gmail-com, how are you this week? I love the kind-hearted support that you offered, Stephanie. I am sure that she will appreciate that as well.

    I agree with you, it is OK to let go, and we need that sometimes. As you mention, it sounds like Stephanie has some fantastic support at home. I am sure that helps with all that is on her plate. I should say their plates. I know that for my hubby, often, my struggles are more difficult for him. Does anyone else feel this way? I am beyond grateful for my loving support at home. I don’t know where I would be without that.

    @stephanie, how are you coping this week?

    I am sending you both air hugs and sunshine from Texas.

  • Carol Volckmann

    Member
    April 23, 2020 at 7:13 pm

    Hi Jen, Like your husband mine gives me so much. I do believe it is more difficult for the care giver than the patient – a spouse, mother, father, child or friend. They want to fix it. It is so hard to stand by and see your love one in pain and suffering and you really cannot fix it. But, they are there for us supporting, helping with our meds, making us more comfortable … loving us. Thank you for your support and air hugs!

    • jen-cueva

      Member
      April 24, 2020 at 10:53 am

      Hi @cdvol3gmail-com, I agree with you. Being a caregiver and watching your loved one suffer from something totally out of your control is tolling on them. I am forever grateful for my hubby, too- air hugs from Texas.

  • Rebecca Talkie

    Member
    April 23, 2020 at 8:16 pm

    HI everyone – I’m struggling. I have had situational depression in the past. I have often joked with my Primary MD that I used up all my serotonin when my Mother died my Sr. year of high school. The last time I said that, he looked at my drug profile and said – you know, you are on the wrong drug for that. So months before all this COVID stuff, my med got switched to a serotonin reuptake inhibitor. It was a smooth switch and I was doing well. Then this. I am quarantined with my husband who is an engineer and not real big on how to help me other than to suggest ways to ‘FIX” it that don’t make sense for one thing. I am separated from all three of my adult children and their husbands, one with MS, and my four grandchildren. They are literally growing up before my eyes on Face Time and its killing me. I have pretty much hit a big time depression. All our trips have been cancelled. I cry a lot, I sleep a lot, except for nighttime. I was in pain from a back issue but thank heavens just got an injection because I fit the criteria for getting it done. I have friends who are praying for me but since we can’t get out, I can’t see them or do any of the things that used to dig me out of temporary funks before. Combine this with what seems to be some ADD as in I can’t concentrate on anything that I might do like read or sew or do genealogy. Nothing seems like fun, nothing tastes good except sugar, and I am tired of cooking. I am well aware that others are struggling and I pray for their requests. I got a call from an EP Dr office that said I had a referral there but apparently it was old before my 30 day heart monitor showed nothing. ( Yeah, half of it was on quarantine.) So that was a mess. Sorry so long and so downer.

  • jen-cueva

    Member
    April 24, 2020 at 11:04 am

    Hi @becca, I am so sorry to hear that you are dealing with depression. I am sure that switching your medication before all of this was not the best time. But who could have ever guessed this?

    My heart breaks as I read how much you miss your kids and grandbabies. I have my daughter and “son-in-love.” They live only 20 minutes away, and I am unable to see them except for a short drive by last week. I can only imagine how difficult this is for you. I realize this is breaking your heart, not being with your grandbabies. FaceTime has been great, but it does not replace the human touch and connection that we feel with that.

    For me, seeing and touching my daughter’s face and hugging her tight is how I know that she is OK. I can empathize with you. I try to think of all of the things that we will do when we can again hug them and spend time with them. Have you tried doing that to see if that helps?

    I also cry a lot, it helps get it out but does not dull the pain. I also talk with my therapist virtually every few weeks. Do you see a therapist, too? I know that most are making telephone and telehealth video appointments. I think with your history of depression that your medical team has these appointments in place.

    I wish that I could reach out and hug you. I just read your comment on my column before I saw this. Thanks for reading, and please pop in and let us know how you are doing. It is such a difficult time right now.

  • jen-cueva

    Member
    April 24, 2020 at 11:15 am

    @ksmith610, you are not lying when you say Opera is not one of the affordable ways to enjoy music. I know the tickets are pricey. I am happy to hear that you say that I am not missing out.

    Your history is quite impressive! I think that is so cool that you were born at the same hospital that you are now being treated for PH at. It sounds like you are still in the process of moving. Or do you have both homes?

    I do remember we talked about flying before. But, I had forgotten that as my memory is not what it once was-Hehe. My hubby also enjoys flying, but he has only gone once. He does fly remote control jets and helicopters as a hobby. He also has a flight simulator. I think that is it so exciting that you can still go and enjoy it when you feel up to it with a trained pilot as far as your protection. Take care and happy flying when you get the chance to go again. I would love that.

  • Colleen

    Member
    April 24, 2020 at 5:12 pm

    @becca you are not a downer. Expressing your feelings, the good and the bad, are what these forums are for. You are not alone with your emotional struggles. I mention that only to emphasize that you are not alone and that what you are experiencing is understandable and not abnormal.

    These are tough and crazy times the world is experiencing right now and for those also dealing with serious health conditions, it’s double the concern and feeling of loneliness.

    I’ve actually been having a rough week too. Late last night I sat on my porch for a while. I turned my mind off by closing my eyes and listening to the sounds of the bugs and the trees moving in the wind. It really did calm me, that and a hot bath helped me sleep. Today I’ve been listening to up-beat music and this evening I’m going to find something funny to watch.

    I know you would rather be with your family and I hope that in the near future you will be able to. In the meantime, try to find little ways to distract yourself and trick your mind into feeling at peace, even if it’s just for as long as it takes to watch a movie.

    Stay in touch and let us know how you are doing.

  • Colleen

    Member
    April 24, 2020 at 5:38 pm

    @ksmith610 when you mentioned how you don’t pray but occasionally use your siddur as a meditation help, it reminded me of something a friend once told me. “You don’t have to be religious to be spiritual.”

    I would like to address your comment, “I tend to be quiet here because I am empathetic to the suffering of others and in my case I have little reason to feel my suffering is any worse than anyone else’s.” There was a time when I thought that way too. At first my son responded well to treatments and for a long time he seemed to be doing so much better than most. It felt awkward discussing his minor issues in forums where people were opening up about big struggles. What someone pointed out to me is that we all have a place in this battle and that all of our voices need to be heard.

    We enjoy hearing from you, especially since you often offer a unique perspective on things and have had an interesting life. I would hope that we aren’t rating each other by suffering. No matter what stage of this disease a person is in, I believe we all have something to share that can benefit someone else. Most of all, I hope it just feels good to talk to each other.

    Have a good weekend, Kevin and let us know how you make out with the Orenitram.

  • Randolph Reynolds

    Member
    May 5, 2020 at 3:10 pm

    Greetings and blessing to all who are on this particular forum. I was especially touched by Stephanie’s situation. The things that have happened to all of us would overwhelm many who just find this pandemic annoying. The quarantine has also severely limited my social life and what little I had before was not enough. When I was required to go on O2 full time it was a blow in many ways. Yet when Stephanie wrote about being a pilot both AF and Commercial it struck a cord. Flying was my life both in the AF and with NASA. At least my PAH didn’t show up until I was retired. I wish I had the proper words to say that I am awed at the courage everyone has in trials like this with the Covid 19 scare making things worse for our mobility. How this band of fellows we are part of face each day is in itself a small promise of another life that is full of joy.

    For me the coronavirus has become most threatening, as my wife constantly reminds me. Yet I want to bust out. “To slip the survey bonds of earth and dance the skies on laughter slivered wings.” Each day is a battle against depression. We were not given a spirit of fear but yet we deal with it. I feel that I am not alone when I can share my deepest feelings. This is a good place to say that we know what lies awaiting us but we carry on.

  • Colleen

    Member
    May 5, 2020 at 4:19 pm

    @stephanie, @ksmith610, @ripple76 I love that the 3 of you have flying in common. It’s a skill and experience that not many share so it’s amazing to see that bond here. It’s an example of why it is so worth speaking up in the forums.

  • Colleen

    Member
    May 5, 2020 at 5:10 pm

    @ripple76 your post today is so poetic. I found your words deeply moving. I wish I could find the right ones to relieve you of the sadness you are feeling during these trying times. You have mentioned your sweet wife in the past and how much she worries about you. May you both be a comfort to each other and hopefully see a return to some normalcy in the near future. I know we are all in need of that.

  • jen-cueva

    Member
    May 5, 2020 at 9:17 pm

    Hi @ripple76, I’m happy that you felt up to posting. I find that an exciting yet cool coincidence that you, @stephanie, and @ksmith610 enjoy flying. It’s certainly a small world, isn’t it?

    I wish that I could send you big hugs and let you know that you’re not alone. I hope that better days are in your future. These unpredictable times are not easy; living with PH and other health issues only complicates this.

    I know that Stephanie will appreciate your kind words. It’s incredible to watch the support that is offered within our PH forums. Thank you for sharing. I’ll be thinking of you and your wife.

  • Carol Volckmann

    Member
    May 8, 2020 at 10:54 am

    I went on line again to re-read these posts. Kevin, Randy and Stephanie your words, feelings touch me deeply. I am not a religious person- but more spiritual person. When I re-read your posts brings to mind the poem FAITH. “Faith is knowing when you come to the edge of the darkness and fear of the unknown and you are about to step off, you will be taught how to FLY!”
    Love to you all.

  • Colleen

    Member
    May 8, 2020 at 12:30 pm

    @cdvol3gmail-com that is a beautiful quote! That and the words from @ksmith610, @ripple76 and @stephanie leaves us all something to think about over the weekend. Thank you PHriends for being so open and ready to share your thoughts with us.

  • jen-cueva

    Member
    May 8, 2020 at 1:49 pm

    I love that @cdvol3gmail-com, thanks for sharing that with us. I agree with that 100%. I admire the vulnerability and compassion that each of you has shown. This is what the forums were created for.

    Thinking of each of you this Friday afternoon and wishing you all the best over the weekend.

  • Randolph Reynolds

    Member
    July 28, 2020 at 4:53 pm

    I am not sure where I should put this. How is the impact of the restrictions due to Covid 19 further isolating us from society? I have experienced a sense of losing touch with some good friends even though we can communicate on line; it is not the same as face to face. In other words depressing. But I have lived with various emotional reactions to my PAH before just that now it seems more difficult.

    My temporary solution is to have meals at open restaurants with my wife and with other friends. Almost always with just two or three at a time. It helps my mood tremendously. My oxygen tank accompanies me.

    I can only see my doctor with on line meetings. At least we can connect but the virus has caused our hospital to require Covid 19 tests followed by quarantine before I can get the echocardiogram that I normally get. I sense that my condition has worsened but also my motivation is low.

    At my age and with my background I want to be part of the recapture of our Republic and I think I can contribute despite my handicap. At least I am voicing my opinions and they are strong. The well written word can influence those who want to read it. Keep up the battle.

  • Colleen

    Member
    July 28, 2020 at 5:10 pm

    HI @ripple76, posting here was perfect. It’s good to hear from you. I feel your struggle about losing touch with good friends. I have been feeling the same way lately. Your temporary solution sounds nice. I’ve been debating about doing the same. A friend recently invited me to have dinner with her and her husband outside of a restaurant. If you don’t mind my asking, do you feel protected enough when you socialize in that way? I think if you keep a nice distance, meet with just one or two people, wear a mask (well, except when eating) and meet outdoors, it lessens the risk. I really miss my friends but I’m still in fear of venturing out too much.

    Is your doctor aware that you are suspicious that your condition has worsened? The Covid test is miserable but maybe you should consider going in and having the echo. I’m concerned about you. Please keep us updated.

    Keep voicing your opinions and writing! I think it’s wonderful and important that you speak out about what concerns you.

  • Valerie

    Member
    August 20, 2020 at 2:17 pm

    Hello, everyone! I’m sorry that I don’t write here so often, but I always look here and thanks to the forum I keep afloat. Thank you for being there, guys! I am happy for people like Randolph, who have the opportunity to communicate with friends in an open cafe. Do any of you still distance yourself from people? I am. I don’t go to stores or other public places.  I can’t breathe in a mask! I haven’t seen my friends in months! I can’t meet my friends even on the street, because they don’t protect themselves from the virus in any way and won’t keep a social distance from me. Now they are offended with me. They say that I call them contagious and just stupidly shout “Oh, Oh, the germs!”. I was very upset. Almost all healthy people (or more or less healthy) do not even try to understand us! This is very upsetting for me. I used to get angry at people who smoke next to other people and don’t care about their own lungs and other people’s lungs. But now there are so many who say “virus is nonsense” or simply do not think about the fact that someone nearby can suffer greatly because of this. Does something similar happen to you? I hope that people around you understand you better.

  • Colleen

    Member
    August 20, 2020 at 5:56 pm

    First of all @valeriekvit is always nice to hear from you but never feel guilty about not posting. We are here for you whenever you need us and there is never any pressure about responding. Except for errands and clinic/hospital visits, I have remained at home too. Honestly I didn’t think it would bother me but the lack of a social life is starting to get to me a bit.

    I think it’s horrible that people have made snarky comments to you. I’m so sorry that is happening. I haven’t experienced that but I do see on social media that my friends have been getting together in very small groups, usually outside, but I have not been invited. I know it’s not that they are ignoring me or think I’m overreacting to concerns, it’s because they know how unsafe it would be for me to join them. Still, it’s hard to see others having fun…so I feel your emotional pain.

    Have you found ways to keep yourself busy at home? What sort of things do you enjoy to pass time?

  • Valerie

    Member
    August 21, 2020 at 4:00 am

    Colleen,
    it’s great that your friends understand that you won’t be able to meet them (it’s better than if they invited you and were offended by your rejection). With such friends, you can probably communicate at least by video link and they will not blame you for this. You have so many difficulties and problems that communication with friends (even virtual) probably helps to distract. You also continue to adhere to self-imposed isolation? I do it too. I go exclusively to work, but there I try to keep a great distance from people. On my desktop there is a large yellow sign “social distance of 1.5 meters”.
    I like to be at home, so it is not difficult to find something to do. I’ve also been reading a lot of biochemistry books lately, because I prefer to understand what’s going on in my body. This information is cooler than any detective.
    But, of course, self-isolation makes me feel even more distant from people. I strongly miss normal communication (without paranoia, moving away from the distance and such things), a simple trip to the store.
    I would like to hope for the best, but I think this virus will be around for a long time. We and other people who are afraid of this, and will not have to see anyone? Maybe there are some tricks to see other people, protect yourself and not offend them with some means of protection?

  • Randolph Reynolds

    Member
    August 21, 2020 at 10:07 am

    Valerie
    We all are more affected by this Covid curse than the average person. My need to get out and socialize is restricted not only because of my dependence on oxygen and my physical limitations but those who are closest friends have for the most part quit gathering. Before this virus I could look forward to spending more time with old acquaintances. I occupy some of my time at home with on line courses. Some of them are about our Constitution and the changes that our government has been undergoing over the years. Needless to say the protests, the way the politicians seek power, and the insanity that is beginning to arise causes me to feel worse. How we react to the pandemic is a statement to our resiliency. Mine is not so good.
    My heart goes out to you for what you have endured for so long. You are being tossed about in a world that doesn’t understand. You sound as if you are coping. Although we are only connected by the internet I sense of camaraderie with this group. May we all endure with our character intact and our hopes restored.

  • Valerie

    Member
    August 21, 2020 at 11:25 am

    Randolph,
    I’m also very sorry that you have to be isolated and not see your friends (this huge happiness, that there is this forum!). You are engaged in a useful business (although a passion for politics only spoils the mood, rather than improves). I sometimes waste time when I just read stupid jokes to lighten the mood.
    You are right, the world does not understand us. In addition, our stability has already been severely shaken due to all sorts of diseases, so although we are used to distancing ourselves, we are more acutely aware of how something is taking away our remaining freedom. I wish you to find a way to communicate with people more often in reality. I still can’t find that way.

  • Colleen

    Member
    August 21, 2020 at 2:01 pm

    @valeriekv I’m like you. I can find plenty to do at home that makes me happy, including reading. That’s why I didn’t think lack of socialization would bother me. My friends to call and check-in on me. I do have a friend who has been inviting me to a cider bar where they sit outside and order from a vendor. I’ve thought about going but my son really doesn’t want me to.

    I too am afraid this is going to be life for much longer than we at first thought. Like you and @ripple76 mentioned, at least we have each other here. You are all the best and I enjoy the conversations. It’s always a nice combination of medical and social/friendly. Stay strong my PHriends!

  • Colleen

    Member
    August 21, 2020 at 2:01 pm

    @valeriekv I’m like you. I can find plenty to do at home that makes me happy, including reading. That’s why I didn’t think lack of socialization would bother me. My friends to call and check-in on me. I do have a friend who has been inviting me to a cider bar where they sit outside and order from a vendor. I’ve thought about going but my son really doesn’t want me to.

    I too am afraid this is going to be life for much longer than we at first thought. Like you and @ripple76 mentioned, at least we have each other here. You are all the best and I enjoy the conversations. It’s always a nice combination of medical and social/friendly. Stay strong my PHriends!

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