March 2, 2020 at 1:54 pm #23290
I live in Washington state where 2 people have died from the Coronavirus and a nursing home is under quarantine. The concern among the public has gone beyond washing hands more and wearing masks. Now people are stock piling food, water and other supplies and staying home when they can. Two school in my home town are closed today as a precaution.
How much more concerned have you become? Are you still attending work and sending kids to school? Have you cut back on how much you go out, especially socially? What are you doing now that you weren’t doing when you first heard about the Coronavirus concern?
March 2, 2020 at 3:26 pm #23293
Wow, @colleensteele, so crazy! But, I know that everyone goes into panic mode.
For myself, I always tend to take precautions, so I continue this. I will not quarantine myself in my house. But, I wash my hands and am careful as to what I touch while out in public places. My appointments and life continue despite the Coronavirus. I think that folks should have started taking precautions before, not wait until people start dying who may live near them. I think this is all just starting here, unfortunately, and we will learn that many others have had it for a while. Just. my thoughts, interested in how others feel.
Hand washing, watching what I touch, not traveling by plane while using basic hygiene and precautions are my take-ups.
March 2, 2020 at 3:47 pm #23299
@colleensteele and @jenc currently my small state of Rhode Island has a couple reported cases. I am getting a little more concerned because it is hitting close to home. With Rhode Island arleady being a small state, I am sure that the spread though the state may seem faster than others. Like Jen I am practicing good hygiene but with a compromised immune system that can only take me so far! Stay safe!
March 2, 2020 at 3:55 pm #23302
Exactly, @brittany-foster, it can only help so much. I started freaking out last month when this all started. Maybe that is why this is nothing new for me, not saying that Colleen is only worried as it was in her state. That certainly makes it more worrisome.
As Brittany mentions, with our compromised immune systems, it is not easy. That is why I am always “on guard”, I guess is what I was trying to say.
March 3, 2020 at 12:26 pm #23308
@jenc I for sure know what you mean! I am also the same way because of how weak my immune system has been. I am also getting worried about going to hospitals for outpatient appointments. It makes me nervous ! I don’t have a mask or anything like that and I can’t just “avoid hospitals” unfortunately for us that’s not a realistic solution! I can only hope that the hospitals are following protocol because my life depends on that.
March 3, 2020 at 3:53 pm #23311Randolph ReynoldsParticipant
A ‘friend’ of mine told me I should be concerned but what defenses do I (or any other person with severe PAH) have? I am in a remote part of Arizona. If this place were to have cases appear I would not attempt to do anything more than I am already doing. Obviously getting striken with the virus would be catastrophic. Too much other stuff to deal with so I let the medical world do its thing.
March 3, 2020 at 3:53 pm #23312Rockefeline DenisParticipant
Hi everyone. I’m very concerned since they confirmed 2 cases not to far from me in Florida. I’m always on my guard, go out when I really have to. Now it’s getting worse, I chose to order everything needed for the house. Because of our weak immune system we are more exposed than others however, we are still here alive and breathing. We are blessed.
March 3, 2020 at 4:13 pm #23314Jimi McintoshParticipant
My immune system is being compromised by my asthma, COPD and PH. I keep getting this cough every 2-3 weeks. I do not believe that the public is being told the full story. The CDC is being as tight lipped as they were about “eboli”.
I have increased my vitamin intake, less meat, more veggies, just in case it is really passing from animals to humans. It is really bad on people with Chronic illnesses. Praying for a miracle
March 3, 2020 at 4:16 pm #23315
Hi Everyone, my husband and I have been travelling around the country. both came down with respiratory colds but no fever
This really made us come to s harsh reality with my PAH with Sclaraderma. We now have masks and sanitizer where ever we go into public places. My doctor also gave me pre medications in the event may have to start taking something. This virus is not stopping us for doing what we wish to do, we are just trying to be a bit more cautious and being aware where we are. Be safe everyone.
March 3, 2020 at 7:14 pm #23319
@jenc you are right about the precautions people should have been taking to begin with. I read a meme today that was funny/not funny. It was a picture of empty store shelved where soaps were displayed. The comment was, “…all these people suddenly buying soap and hand sanitizer…why weren’t they washing their hands until now?”
March 3, 2020 at 7:27 pm #23320
@cdvol3gmail-com it’s a difficult balance between still living our lives and taking precautions. It sounds like you are doing what you can to keep yourself safe and well. I have a 60th birthday party at a poplular cider bar to attend on Friday and I’m debating whether I should attend or not.
That is smart thinking on your doctor’s part giving you pre-medications. I hope you won’t need them but so glad to hear that you have them in case you do.
March 3, 2020 at 7:40 pm #23321
@ripple76, @rockie436 and @jimi I share all of your concerns and am using precautions the way you are. We have started using the on-line supermarket ordering where they deliver to the house. My husband told our boys that when they get home from college every day they should change their clothes, take a shower and wash what they wore that day. We would rather be over the top with caution than risk this virus. I wish their colleges would close their doors and not make the students have to decided between missing class or risking illness by attending. Stay well everyone. I pray for our community always, but especially during difficult times such as these.
March 4, 2020 at 1:07 pm #23327
Colleen, you and your son have been in my thoughts. Currently we are in CA finishing up with the doctors I have at UCLA and will be heading back to WA when it gets a bit warmer. We have been to every store we pass by to buy more hand sanitizer- every store is out! We found on line how to make our own. Please be stay well and safe.
March 4, 2020 at 3:01 pm #23328
@ripple76 it seems pretty basic to say but I think that proper hygiene (should be done all the time anyways) is really important here. I think that people have every right to feel worried or concerned, especially because the populations that are impacted more severely are those that have weaker immune systems. I know that for me, even the common cold has the potential to turn into something drastic. It’s definitely frightening to think about getting complications from it, but I also am not isolating myself and I am trying my best to go about my daily life while being more aware of proper hygiene and hand washing.
March 4, 2020 at 3:02 pm #23329
March 4, 2020 at 3:04 pm #23330
@colleensteele great suggestions to pass along about changing clothes when you get home from a public place. God only knows what the clothes can rub up against and the amount of bacteria on them. I also agree that officials shouldn’t be making people choose between getting sick or going to school. It should be a no brainer and those with weaker immune systems should definitely be excused especially if there is an active threat happening in the town.
March 4, 2020 at 3:09 pm #23331
@jimi you certainly are doing all that you can as far as making sure your nutrition is as good as it can be! That is such an essential part of healing and making sure you are treating your body well during this time. Having the control to do the things YOU KNOW are going to help is so important! Focus on what we do have control over and those small things will add up!
March 4, 2020 at 3:11 pm #23332
@cdvol3gmail-com like you, I don’t want to ever put my life on hold for something like this, but I am going to take the precautions and make my decisions based on how I am feeling and how safe I feel with the people I surround myself with when it comes to them having any type of sickness. Even someone with a GI illness could be hazardous because if I were to catch ANYTHING it would make me more susceptible. So that is a good point that it’s NOT just this particular virus to cause concern. It should be any virus that has the potential to attack how we fight things off.
March 4, 2020 at 3:13 pm #23333
@rockie436 I hope that you continue to stay safe! That is a good idea that more people are ordering and using things like delivery services instead of going out into the general public, especially if it is spreading close to home for you. I’m curious how people feel about ordering food out (like take out) vs getting food from the market during a time like this? Would you rather prepare it yourself?
March 4, 2020 at 5:30 pm #23338
March 4, 2020 at 8:24 pm #23340
Hi Everyone – hand sanitizers are gone from stores or if they have them the price has gone up by 100%!
Recipe for making your own:
2/3 cup Rubbing Alcohol or Ethanol
1/3 cup of Aloe Vera Gel
Optional 8-10 drops of Lavender, or Peppermint or Vanilla
Mix and put in sterile bottle
Hope this helps we are doing it.
Stay well and safe!
March 4, 2020 at 8:59 pm #23342
So true, @brittany-foster, I agree. We don’t have the choice to stay away from hospitals and clinics. It is scary but it is something that living with a compromised immune system so long, I am like you. I hope that the hospitals follow protocol. Today, I had 2 appointments(dental), no coughing and sick folks, hopefully. So, while I was out, I went to a small local coffee shop.
Honestly, signing in and out of the offices as well as updating paperwork, I realized today that we all use the same pen! So, that was a tad alarming, to me. I thought that maybe I should start using my pen. Hehe
Anyone bring their pen when out at appointments? I am not usually easily stressed about catching the flu/virus, just basic hygiene, and my usual precautions. It is worrisome that the death toll continues to climb.
March 4, 2020 at 9:01 pm #23343
March 4, 2020 at 9:08 pm #23344
Hey @colleensteele, I can certainly understand your concerns with the boys attending college. The changing clothes are so important and a great reminder. When I worked in nursing, I would go home strip down and shower or take a bath before doing anything. I leave my shoes at the door already, so that was no issue.
I am a tad OCD with Clorox and Lysol wipes already per my hubby, so I think that and hand washing, etc helps.
The grocery delivery is a great idea, I use that often when I am not up to going myself. It is often a life-saver.
Like I tell my hubby, I will not confine myself or stop living, it is a tough balance when something like this is going on. Sadly, most of my outings are appointments, picking up meds, etc. I do add a few fun things in between. Thankfully, I am not riding a subway or using public transportation.
March 5, 2020 at 10:14 am #23348
@rockie436 I feel like a lot of people probably feel the same way about preparing own food vs eating out (especially people are staying away from those salad bars or prepared food bars in grocery stores!) That would be the LAST thing I would go for. People definitely need to keep all this in mind when thinking about hygiene and how quickly something like this can spread too.
March 5, 2020 at 10:25 am #23350
March 5, 2020 at 10:37 am #23352
@jenc There are way more things that I think about now that I didn’t give much thought to before. In another comment I mentioned the food bars at grocery stores. I feel like buffet style places are going to take a huge profit loss and I most certainly will be staying away from the “serve yourself” style centers of grocery stores. I don’t know why I didn’t see this as more of a problem even before honestly! This has really made me think about my own personal hygiene and brought more awareness to these every day things that we are so used to and just accept (like the pen!)
March 5, 2020 at 1:57 pm #23361
I’m not worried about myself because my husband and I are both homebodies. I am worried about my son because he works in a grocery store — and his wife because she’s a nurse at a very large hospital.
About a year ago, I bought a case of hand sanitizer and decided I preferred soap and water (since I rarely leave home). Since my daughter-in-law and son both work in very public places, I’m giving them the 5 bottles I still have left. For myself, I think I will avoid fresh fruits and veggies until the Coronavirus is no longer a thing. Given that I don’t know where most of the fresh food comes from, I think canned will be safer. Heat kills the virus.
March 5, 2020 at 2:16 pm #23360
@brittany-foster, here is a link to the recipe for hand sanitizer. If you want scent added, you can add a few drops of essential oil. The CDC recommends that you use at least 60% alcohol, so if you add essential oil of any kind, you may want to use a little more alcohol.
March 5, 2020 at 2:20 pm #23364
@mamabear007 I was eating an apple when I read your comment. It hadn’t occurred to me that it might be wise to avoid fresh fruits and vegetables for the time being. You make a good point that canned might be safer.
I have a friend who also works in a grocery store and for that reason we have canceled upcoming plans. She is becoming increasingly worried about her risk of becoming infected.
I will keep your son in my thoughts and prayers. I’m worried about my boys too because they are still attending classes every day.
March 5, 2020 at 2:39 pm #23367
@cdvol3gmail-com thank you for thinking of me and my son. I was about to ask you for the sanitizer recipe but I see now that you already shared it.
Our local news last night shared professional advice and they claim that regular soap is just as efficient. What is more important than what you use is HOW you wash your hands. They put a lot of focus on the thumbs because they are the most used and often the least washed. They pointed out that the back of the hands are also often neglected.
May you and your family stay well! Thanks again for the recipe.
March 5, 2020 at 2:39 pm #23368
@colleensteele, after I posted this, I realized that fresh veggies should be safe, as long as I cook it. However, salads are still out. That’s going to be extremely difficult for me as I usually eat a few salads a day. I think I may also start avoiding restaurants if the virus starts passing through the community out here.
Since my state (Utah) hasn’t had any cases (except for the ones they flew in from the cruise ship that tested positive before leaving Japan) I’m actually more worried about flu and colds for my son and daughter-in-law. Of course, that could change any day.
March 5, 2020 at 10:40 pm #23372Jo Ann whiteParticipant
I am in a part of Florida that has a couple of cases and am trying to decide whether or not to go out to dinner with friends or use my tickets to symphony and theater and ballet. I hate to have to be a prisoner in my house while I am still able to get out to the things I love with my oxygen tanks. Once I am up another liter that will become impossible. I use wipes and avoid people with colds but this is scary…!!!
March 6, 2020 at 2:52 pm #23380
@jo-ann-white I was hopeful this scare would quickly dissolve but instead it seems to be intensifying. I hear you about not wanting to be a prisoner in your home and deciding what you will and will not attempt attending. I was supposed to go out this evening with friends to celebrate a birthday but I decided not to.
My son who had PH and received a transplant has made the difficult decision to not register for the next semester of college. The current one will soon be completed and he’s braving the classroom in an attempt to finish. He might try to find some on-line classes until the virus threat is better controlled.
March 6, 2020 at 3:10 pm #23384
@mamabear007 I was multi-tasking while watching the news last night. Did I hear the Utah just had their first case of the virus?
I decided to continue eating fresh fruits and veggies. My boys seem to be suddenly craving them more than usual and I don’t want to discourage that. I just make a point of washing them even more thoroughly than I usually do.
I made the decision to not attend a birthday party at a bar tonight and wouldn’t have gone if it was at a restaurant either. I almost asked Cullen if he wanted to go see a movie with me tonight and then I realized…oh wait, nope can’t do that. Probably not a good idea.
March 6, 2020 at 4:37 pm #23385
@colleensteele, nobody caught Coronavirus in Utah. The man and his wife had been on the Diamond Princess cruise ship, and were being isolated in Japan. She had symptoms, so she had to stay in Japan. Even though he tested positive, since he didn’t have symptoms, the State Department flew him home to Utah — because that’s what the man wanted. He was quarantined in a hospital. Then, even though he still tested positive, they allowed him to quarantine himself at home. I’m wondering what the heck those in charge were thinking!
I have to admit that I decided I can’t go without my salads. I bought a few pre-packaged and pre-washed salads from the grocery store today. The grocery store was out of hand sanitizer, and they were rationing bottled water and toilet paper. Good thing I’ve got alcohol and Aloe Vera so I can make my own sanitizer.
I’m more worried for my son and his RN wife, since they both work in very public environments.
I continue to pray for you and your family.
March 8, 2020 at 4:29 pm #23394
So true, @brittany-foster! When I think about some of these things, I find that I do most precautionary measures the majority of the time. But, the ones I tend to follow are pretty basic. Like you, these comments remind me that I may need to up my game some.
I think with an increasing number of cases reported, I have found that I am going out less. But, as I mentioned previously, I also do not want to confine myself within my home. On the other hand, if I were to contract this virus, it would only add catastrophe to , my already compromised immune system.
You know, one of the dirties my unsanitary places is the card kiosks that we use to pay at the majority of stores. The keypads are full of germs. My hubby uses Apple pay when possible, but as I told him yesterday, his phone is still tapping and then he touches it.
Another place that always creeps me out although I shop frequently, the produce department. A friend of mine is a manager at a local produce department and shares the horror stories on the germs lurking in that area. Not something that I needed to hear, Hehe
The lists could go forever. I think that is why I tend to use basic precautions with careful handwashing. I also try NOT to touch my face or sit my bag or wallet on a counter.
March 8, 2020 at 4:34 pm #23395
Everyone please use your best judgment and keep yourself and families safe. As @colleensteele says, I was hoping this would soon disappear and we would not still be worrying about this.
I am thankful that I only have one appointment planned this week. But, our wedding anniversary is this coming weekend and we are hoping to at least get to enjoy a dinner out. We will see where this all is at the end of the week.
@mamabear007, they are also out of sanitizer at Aldi and my local Kroger. Water is selling like crazy. People are stockpiling like crazy here in Texas. I see that this is not just in our area, though.
March 8, 2020 at 7:34 pm #23404
March 9, 2020 at 12:27 pm #23418
@mamabear007 Oh yes, they are sold OUT pretty much everywhere near me too. I also wouldn’t really trust the Amazon shipping right now either. You just can’t be too sure where the packaging is being done and who is packing the boxes. I just read that an Amazon employee tested positive and it made me think about this ! Are people ordering much online right now>? I feel like it’s just a lose lose situation however you purchase things right now.
March 10, 2020 at 3:24 pm #23451
@brittany-foster, the Amazon employee was from Seattle. I haven’t received anything from their Seattle warehouse, but if I do, I’ll spray the package down really good with disinfectant, then it will stay outside in my deckbox for 14 days. I feel that I’m safer ordering things Online than I am walking through my local grocery store. In the grocery store, I have to contend with everybody that has come into the store sick — and many customers do that, even when they’re symptomatic.
I can protect myself against the germs on the box, but I can’t protect myself against sick people in the store.
March 10, 2020 at 7:02 pm #23459Jimi McintoshParticipant
Viruses do not live long without a host, most have to have heat and moisture. I assume that this is a virus like a cold and not a germ resistant bacteria. Our latest troops in our war on terror were affected by something the enemy fired that didn’t strike them , yet is causing over 2000 troops to exhibit severe brain trauma, similar to what occurred in Cuba.
I was unhappy to hear our government state that 1% of American that are Old, have Respiratory issues, have Multiple
Medical issues, would be affected. I do not feel that the real story is being given, and most of us cannot be quarantined for 14 days, most of our meds are only available every 30 days.
Most of the germafobs have been wiping and washing for years, now this??? Please tell me the truth. Avoid crowds, congested places, people are about to lock themselves in the house. My doctor gave me a list of things to be aware of, be prepared to call a medical facility before going to the ER. Wash , wash, cough in a napkin, elbow or 5 feet away from others.
Most of all do not panic, use common sense, surround yourself with people you trust and are aware of your medical issues and requirements. We cough to breathe, be aware that others fear coughing and this virus, so try to avoid becoming a target of fear and ignorance. PH (PAH) is not contagious, I wear this mask to protect others not myself
March 10, 2020 at 10:48 pm #23461Rebecca TalkieParticipant
Only a few cases in northern Ohio. I am in the southwest. But there is no hand santizer, no bleach, no alcohol, no aloe vera gel, no toilet paper and no peanut butter on the shelves here. Someone local said that Senior Citizens, of which I am not one but my husband is, should consider stocking supplies so they can be house bound for two weeks or more. What? I can see humor in this but I too am concerned viewing I have asthma in addition to PAH.
March 11, 2020 at 10:43 am #23469
@mamabear007 so true! I guess it comes down to what we have control over vs what we don’t . Like you said, you can’t protect against what people are doing or not doing to help themselves. People go to stores sick all the time, just as much as so many kids going to school sick. Even if it’s “nothing to worry about” It still may be a matter of life or death for some kiddos.
March 11, 2020 at 11:03 am #23476
@jimi I just came back from my doctor’s appointment and they definitely were following protcol and safety measures as I went in there with an upper respiratory infection. They said the masks were for my own safety too and I was appreciative of how sterile they were. They also told me that they are only testing those that have had direct contact with someone with the virus or have symptoms of the virus after travelling outside of the country. So even the testing for it is very cut back even though my state has confirmed cases.
March 11, 2020 at 11:07 am #23477
@becca I saw something that someone wrote that was like “Why are people just using toilet paper NOW ?! Why are people starting to wash their hands now!?” I think that is funny, but I also know the seriousness of this. I went to my doctor’s today and have an upper respiratory infection that I am being treated for. Scratchy and sore throat too. I was not tested for the virus though because I haven’t traveled and I don’t have a fever right now. I think they are pretty informed on what to look out for too and have had a lot of trainings on this as medical professionals on what is an emergency and what isn’t. They took all the right precautions though that’s for sure. Even did a chest xray just to rule out pneumonia for me.
March 12, 2020 at 4:34 pm #23520Sarah KuykendallParticipant
Please everyone, take this very seriously. I may be over reacting, but I’ve put myself in reverse isolation (regular isolation would be the person in isolation is sick). I also have an extra problem because my daughter is an ICU nurse (I’m a retired nurse) and she lives with me. She’s already had 3 patients with rule-out corona cases and does not have the proper equipment to keep even herself safe. I’m lucky in that I have a small apartment attached to the main house where I can stay. There’s a hall between the two parts of the house and my son-in-law put a curtain up a few feet from my door to make kind of an anteroom. So far he’s bringing me my dinner. I don’t want anything cold and I reheat it in a microwave. We’re being a little lax now, but when any of the people in my house get the virus or my daughter has a positive corona patient I will use a stockpile of frozen food I ordered from the grocery which was delivered. When the groceries came, I wiped them all down with Clorox wipes. My dog is staying on their side of the house (this is the hardest part). My cats now have a door in my window and no one but me is supposed to pet them. Angela Merkel (president of Germany) is expecting maybe 2/3 of their population to get the virus. I see no reason we should be different. Healthy and young people will probably do fine, but those who are older or sicker are in dire danger. Please listen to the health care experts and be a little skeptical about the politicians.
Good health to you all!
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March 12, 2020 at 5:15 pm #23523
@sarahk my family has become increasingly more concerned as well and doubling our precautions. My son who received a transplant is finished his classes for the semester and is home but the college that my other son attends hasn’t closed their doors. He is still expected to attend every day and it has me so upset.
It sounds like you are taking every reasonable precaution that you can and it’s good that your family is so supportive. I will keep your daughter in my prayers. I can understand how worried you are about her. She is a hero in my book, still going into work and taking care of the sick.
Thank you for the concern for all of us and sharing your advice. I do think it is important that every individual does their part to try not to spread the virus.
April 13, 2020 at 10:51 pm #24463criswell WellParticipant
All measures conducive to reducing the risk of infection are worth taking. I have always stayed at home now, except for going out to purchase the necessary daily necessities, I will no longer go out. I measure my body temperature once a day to make sure that my temperature is still at a normal level and react in time when I start to get warm. The non-contact electronic thermometer is a good thing, the measurement speed is fast and there is no need to touch the skin. If you use a discount code, it will be much cheaper: https://www.amazon.com/Infrared-Thermometer-Forehead-Contact-Accurate/dp/B086JP7FV9/ code: TMFP0250
April 14, 2020 at 10:08 am #24476
@jonathanhan thank you, I appreciate the link to this and the discount code. I think that it’s smart to have something for temp checks that doesn’t have to go under the tongue. We have one that goes under the tongue in my house and it is germy to think about it being in someone else’s mouth and spreading germs that way. I have always done my best to disinfect it, but still think that even alcohol won’t completely do the trick. This is helpful that it doesn’t even touch the skin. My home nurse uses one like that so that she is the only one actually touching it through the day .
April 14, 2020 at 4:33 pm #24491
April 14, 2020 at 5:55 pm #24497
Hi @jonathanhan, I have been looking on Amazon for a new thermometer. I decided that this may not be the best time to look as the stock is limited. I do like this one, and I hope to replace my old school, although the digital thermometer soon. I will probably not be able to afford that one just yet, but it looks like something that I would prefer.
There are so many varieties, and not knowing about their accuracy except for reading reviews can be confusing. Who would have guessed that we have so many types of thermometers to pick from? -Hehe
Thanks for sharing.
April 17, 2020 at 1:46 am #24570criswell WellParticipant
If any help is given to you, I will feel very honored! Hope you all can stay healthy!
April 17, 2020 at 6:50 am #24571
@jonathanhan thank you, we hope that you are staying well too! How often do you usually monitored things like your temp reading? Is it just when you aren’t feeling well or is this something that you do every day? I usually just check my temp when I am feeling sick or when I wake up sweating at night to make sure I don’t have a fever. Most of the time I have a pretty low baseline temp so anything above 99.5 usually feels really warm for me.
April 17, 2020 at 3:42 pm #24592
Hey @jonathanhan, thank you, and we are happy to have you here. I hope that we can all stay healthy, too. It certainly can be a stressful time. I find it even more difficult because the symptoms are similar to PH.
Like Brittany, when I wake up sweating at night, I take my temp to be sure. Mine has not been over 99.8, so I am watching it. I also am trying to listen to my body a little better.
Do you have a tough time trying to decide if you may have symptoms of COVID-19, worsening of PH, or the flu? I have heard many who do. What are you doing as far as precautions to protect yourself? Have you been on lockdown for weeks now?
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