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    • #29681
      Brian
      Participant

      I was recently diagnosed, 2/8/21, with severe PAH, I am 53 yo, and have always tried to stay moderatively active. I am trying to keep a positive attitude towards managing this disease but lately family and coworkers act as if I am not sick. My wife is complaining that I could do more to help with the daily chores, but some days I am just to exhausted to even get out of bed. We have occasional visitors and I try my best to visit and be normal, I do enjoy having the occasional company and the visits are short. My wife resents that I appear fine with company but spend a lot of time in bed otherwise. My wife has been very supportive and I don’t think I could cope without her, but I feel resentment is building and she states that if I can be that way with visitors then I can do more to help with other things. And arguments are becoming more frequent. At work, I have reduced my hours and my workload and coworkers are stating that I am not pulling my weight, and arguments are becoming more frequent. I am trying my best keep things normal and I don’t want any pity parties, but I don’t know what else to do. I am to the point that I just want everyone to leave me alone and let me die in peace. I have even said that and was told that I was not dieing and to just get over it. Does anyone else have this type of attitude from others? And how do you cope with it?

    • #29691
      Valerie
      Participant

      Hi, Brian!
      You are not the only one, we are all constantly faced with the ignorance of the people around us. I think you should take care of yourself first. It’s the only thing you have to do! Even if you didn’t have a PH, you can say, “I want to do this and I don’t want to do this.”
      Please don’t think “let me die in peace”. You’re not going to die now! But PH seems to be telling you, ” you have to slow down, rest more, take care of your body, take care of your mind.” If the people around you don’t want to get into your position, don’t pay attention. Tell them (or mentally tell yourself): “I am 53 years old and I will finally do what is best for me.”
      I’m constantly learning how to do it myself. I remind myself that it’s better to miss the bus than to make myself feel bad. If you take care of yourself and do as much as you really can, you will bring more benefits to other people.

    • #29697
      Jen Cueva
      Keymaster

      Brian, my heart aches for you as I can tell that you really are trying. I, too, look better and act “normal” when visitors come by. But I work hard at “looking good” most days. Afterward, I crash. I live in my PJs most of the week, and I am OK with that. I work for a few hours per day from home; some days, I cannot do that.

      As @valeriekv offers some great advice, taking care of yourself is most important. Your wife may be getting caregiver burnout and needs some help, too. I am certain that she does not mean anything negative. She needs a break, too. Watching her love, you, in such bad shape makes her hurt and stress, too.

      If possible, she too needs breaks. I would not think “letting you die in peace” is feasible. PH is not a death sentence. It can feel like it some days, but you have to stay optimistic. Rest when you can, slow down, talk to your wife, or maybe have her join the forums. She could benefit, too.

      Since you are newly diagnosed, you are both probably scared and unsure what to expect, which causes you both to be highly stressed and cause arguments. You can do this together! I have had PH for 16 years, and my hubby is my rock. But some days, we argue, too.

      Are you seeing a PH specialist? That makes a difference, too.

    • #29705
      Colleen Steele
      Keymaster

      @brian this is such a frustrating reality of PH, to feel so very sick but not look it. I don’t know how much your wife has researched and educated herself about PH. Either she needs to do more of that or she is frightened for you and denial, even anger is her way of dealing with it. PH changes the home dynamics for everyone and I’m afraid it might take time to settle in to this new normal.


      @jenc
      and @valeriekv offered solid advice based off of personal experience. I hope it helps in some way to understand that you are not alone with these challenges.

      There are a number of resources that helped my family help others understand our son’s disease.

      1) Printable PH wallet cards. We handed them out like they were candy.
      https://phassociation.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/AM20_WalletCard_Printable.pdf

      2) More resources to download for patients and their family.
      For Patient: https://phassociation.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/FREE-MATERIALS-PDF-The-New-Normal.pdf
      For Caregiver: https://phassociation.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/FREE-MATERIALS-PDF-Guide-Caregivers.pdf

      3) Free resource from the PH Association.

      Newly Diagnosed

      I don’t know how you feel about social media but my family found it a helpful place to spread PH awareness. If you read an article that hits home to you, share it.

      When you have time scroll through the PH columns. I’m sure you will find many relatable articles.

      Colleen Steele – https://pulmonaryhypertensionnews.com/category/life-as-a-caregiver-a-column-by-colleen-steele/

      Jen Cueva – https://pulmonaryhypertensionnews.com/category/worth-the-phight-a-column-by-jen-cueva/

      Brittany Foster – https://pulmonaryhypertensionnews.com/category/recharged-and-rewired-by-brittany-foster/

      Ellie Bird – https://pulmonaryhypertensionnews.com/category/chronically-uncool-a-column-by-ellie-bird/

      • #29730
        Jen Cueva
        Keymaster

        Hi @brian, you have been offered such great resources by @colleensteele that you may find helpful as well as your wife. I hope this week you are doing some better mentally and emotionally. With PH, it certainly can be like a roller coaster ride for all involved.

    • #29710
      Clyde
      Participant

      It sounds like you have been reading my mail😁. I have good days and bad days. I got covid in November and it really set me back. Hopefully things will continue to improve and I can help more around the house. Try to do little things that you can do. I walked to the kitchen light switch and turned it off and she just about started crying. Evidently it is the first time I have done that since I was in the hospital. Since then I try to do the little things I can even when I know it’s easier for her. I bring her coffee in bed and she loves it. She is doing a million things for you, do what you can for her

      • #29731
        Jen Cueva
        Keymaster

        Hehe, @clydedodge, I love your humor. But most importantly, I love your response to Brian. I, too, had COVID and was hospitalized for weeks, not expected to make it out. My hubby and I are a team. Your story about the light switched resonates with me because I remember something as simple as eating and drinking through a straw were things my hubby was so excited about.

        I love that you bring her coffee to bed. My hubby makes my coffee and brings it to me on his off days and usually makes brunch on one of those days, too. We are a team.

        I love this, “She is doing a million things for you, do what you can for her”- So true, I love this.

    • #29726
      Jennifer Beaty
      Participant

      @Brian, I too empathize with your situation. I also have to agree with everyone else here. 1) Take care of yourself first! You cannot help anyone else if you don’t. 2) Try to educate your wife as to the symptoms, how PH affects you personally. Since Covid, I have experienced a tremendouns amount of discrimination for not keeping on my mask. But there are simply times that I have to remove it to get more air. So, I tolerate (ignore) the people who don’t know me and therefore have no idea what I’m experiencing physically. 3) Find an ally. My sister-in-law is my biggest advocate. When I remove the mask, if anyone says anything, she (very commandingly) explains my situation.

      • #29732
        Jen Cueva
        Keymaster

        Thanks, @jenniferbeaty, for sharing those examples with Clyde. I am sure that he will benefit from these tips and others. I love that you say, find an ally, so important. If it is not his wife, maybe a good friend or another relative. I love that your ally is your sister-in-law. That must be an awesome relationship.

        I hope that you are doing well. Do what you need to do regarding your mask. They do make it difficult to breathe, especially if the time is very long.


        @mamabear007
        , thanks for reminding Clyde and us about The Spoon Theory. I often forget to remind others of that take. I always found it helpful in certain situations where others are no getting it. I love how well you describe PH; it truly does ravage your insides.

    • #29724
      V.R. Peterson
      Participant

      PH is one of those diseases that can ravage patients from the inside without leaving external signs that others can see. It’s not like a broken bone that one can plainly see, yet it’s effects can be more devastating than that of a broken bone. Some people are better able to understand if they understand the Spoon Theory. There is a short article that explains it much better than I, and maybe it will help your wife understand if she reads it. https://butyoudontlooksick.com/articles/written-by-christine/the-spoon-theory/

    • #29740
      Susi Steppins
      Participant

      Hi Brian.
      I completely agree with what everyone else is saying.
      You do have to put yourself first, or you won’t be able to do the things you want to for others.
      I remember when I was in the hospital while they were trying to figure out what was wrong with me watching my husband go through all of his emotions was an unreal experience.
      I almost felt fortunate to be going through what I was because it offered me an opportunity not many people have.
      I saw firsthand how very very much my husband loves me and how close we truly are.
      Thankfully I am still here to live the rest of our lives with that knowledge and be able to show each other daily how important we are to one another.
      It also showed me how scared he was. Of the changes that were coming, of the expenses we knew were involved, of my possibly not being able to work and of losing me altogether.
      It enabled me to sit back and think about how much he does for me and to remember to do for him as well.

      @clydedodge
      is so very right.
      When you feel up to it do what you can for her.
      Even the small gestures mean a lot.
      Last night I noticed that my husband was out of mouth wash and I refilled his bottle for him.
      When he came to bed the smile on his face was priceless.
      The little things mean a lot.

    • #29837
      Jen Cueva
      Keymaster

      Hi @brian, I wanted to check in on you and your wife. I think you have so many offering support and tips for you.

      Are you doing any better this week? How are things medically and at home? Please update us as you have time and feel up to it.

    • #29851
      Sally Hoffman
      Participant

      Hi Brian, I sat here wanting to give you my support but struggling with what to say to you. I wanted to tell you to try to plan for things you want to do but I knew that was not enough. When I saw the post that mentioned the Spoon Theory I decided to read it. I said that’s me. Just substitute PAH for Lupus. Let that story help you. Today is a very special day for me. I am going out for dinner tonight with my husband and our very good friends. It is the first time in 2 years. I was too sick the year before the pandemic. I am very excited. But, I knew if I did too much “i would lose my spoons” I allowed myself four hours to shower and just put on a pair of jeans and a tank top. I’m nervous, but I’m using my spoons carefully to be able to do what I want. Remember also, you are newly diagnosed. It takes some time for these meds to work. We don’t get better in a day. Gradually you may realize that you can do more, if you are careful with your spoons. I wish you the best my friend. Rely on this group.

    • #29864
      Brian
      Participant

      Thank you for all the responses and positive support. I can’t tell much difference in the way I feel yet, just waiting for the meds to take full effect, right now it’s just a waiting game until my next heart cath to see if there is any improvement. All the responses are very helpful and it’s nice to know others have been down this path before me with positive outcomes. I appreciate all of your responses. Thanks

    • #29870
      Jen Cueva
      Keymaster

      Hi @brian, I am happy to see that you came in to update us a tad. Yes, the PH treatments take several weeks at a minimum to see any improvements. When is your next heart cath scheduled? Do you think they may do an Echocardiogram (echo) in between? Some PH centers like to perform an echo in between the RHC (right heart cath).

      How are you doing emotionally? How about your wife? I am hoping that she can read up and find support, too. Did she sign up to join us?

      We are here for you. You are certainly not alone. Please pop in and let us know if you have specific questions.

      One step at a time…

    • #29933
      Brian
      Participant

      I am about 12 wks post diagnosis and seem to be doing well. I think I am getting used to the side effects of the meds. Drinking shots of aloe vera seems to help with the heartburn, without the adverse effects of antacids, and my BP isn’t dropping like before. Also started pulmonary rehab, so I am slowly beginning to get some exercise without the worry of overexerting myself.
      My Rheumatologist wants me to start taking Mycophenolate, but I am not really sure if I agree. I have not tested positive for any autoimmune disorders but he feels there might be something that is just waiting ‘to blossom’ and thinks I will benefit from the med., he feels the PAH might be secondary in nature and due to an underlying autoimmune disorder. I am concerned that we will have difficulty determining if any improvement of the PAH, if any, is due to the PAH meds or due to the Mycophenolate. I am meeting with my cardiologist this week to evaluate my progress and hopefully schedule another heart cath.. I also want his opinion on the possibility of increased risk of infection due to the Mycophenylate and any upcoming heart cath. if it is better to wait until after the heart cath. to start the mycophenylate.

    • #29934
      Brian
      Participant

      Mycophenolate not Mycophenylate

    • #29936
      Terry
      Participant

      Good stuff Brian,
      From a personal view I reckon your doing the right thing in delaying Mycophenolate ‘just in case’ . Why does there have to be an underlying cause ? Sounds like you go to the same
      Rheumatologist as me . I see one for my GCA and last time his opening comment was approx. So your seeing ….. as you have PAH .What was the underlying cause? What!
      I reminded him that he was the one who sent me to respiratory as I complained I had breathing issues five months into reducing the prednisone and they discharged me after 12 months with mild emphysema so I sought help elsewhere as I was getting desperate. I do know that my PAH doc. is wary of me being on methotrexate which like mycophenolate can cause breathing issues etc. I would ask more questions.
      Seems methotrexate has all kinds of nasties and I have to take folic acid six days a week to offset some. Anyway on one of my overnight hospital stays they ,as usual , put the purple tag on my wrist and when it was time for my tabs. they gave me all bar the methotrexate . Next thing I know a young nurse comes in dressed in purple gown,purple mask and purple gloves just to hand me the methotrexate tab. I started laughing and said OMG its the purple people eater. He was a bit young to have heard the song.

    • #30048
      Jen Cueva
      Keymaster

      Hey @brian, I wanted to pop in and see how you are feeling this week. How are you doing with your treatments? Please update us when you have a chance.

    • #30057
      Brian
      Participant

      Hi Jen, I hope all is well with you. I am getting a heart cath tomorrow morning (5/12/21) at 8am. I should know at that time if the meds are working. Keeping fingers crossed.

    • #30068
      Jen Cueva
      Keymaster

      Keeping all crossed and sending positive thoughts and prayers your way today. @brian. I hope, too, that you will have some good news after your RHC. Please pop in to update us on how things went for you.

      I know some PH docs tell you before you go home. Others want to schedule an appointment to go over the results.

      Whatever it may be, please update as you can.

    • #30079
      Carol Volckmann
      Participant

      Hi Brain, I am just catching up on your post. All the advice and support you have received has been fantastic. I know when I first went onto this forum, I knew I had found so much really good advice and unconditionally loving support.

      Reading your first post the only thing I might help your wife is to participate, go with you to your appointments for she also needs to know all the steps for you and I am sure she also will have her own questions. You two are a team.

      Automunine disease can and often does cause PAH as in Sclaraderma. When I was finally diagnosed with PAH after being misdiagnosed for 5 years my new Pulmonolgist had me see a Rhumotologist who specialized in autoimmune diseases that are the cause of PAH and others.

      My team consists of a Pulmonolgist, a Rhumotologist and Cardiologist and they all work together. To date my Rhumotologist does not want to put me on any meds for Sclaraderma until I show symptoms that would require it. As he puts it, “…why put poison in your body when you don’t need it right now…” I have been with him for 17 years along with the Pulmonolgist and Cardiologist.

      So I would consult with all three of your docs before adding meds.

      Hope your RHC went well so keeping my fingers crossed for you and sending you positive energy and vibes! Do take very good care of yourself 😊

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